The Best and Worst Tires for Stretching

The Best and Worst Tires for Stretching

– No! No! Not Stretch tires! Oh my God no! Not the most
worst thing in the world! Oh my God I dropped my script ’cause it’s such a terrible thing to talk about! We’re here to talk about stretch tires because you guys want to know what sort of tires you
can stretch on wheels. Now, it is a hot topic,
I get it, and I know that it’s something that some people
don’t usually get, you know, all super happy about when we discuss. But, I’m gonna be honest with you, stretch tires aren’t
going away any time soon, and in terms of fitment,
stretch tires are a thing that you like, have to know. So we are also going to be
dropping a video next week talking about how to actually
measure for stretch tires, but for the most part for right now, we’re just gonna talk about
what tires should you stretch, and what tires are you
gonna wanna stay away from in regards to stretching. And we’re just gonna get started
by letting you guys know, don’t forget to subscribe
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in tires or wheels, check out Fitment Industries dot com. I’m Alex, and let’s
just jump right into it. So the first thing you’re
gonna want to remember with stretch tires is two
really crucial things. The first thing that you’re
gonna want to remember is that when you’re stretching tires, a lot of it comes down
to sidewall strength. So, sidewall strength is
something that a lot of wheel companies or tire
companies tell you about. They talk about all sorts
of advanced technology and things that they
put in their sidewall. And that does play a role
into how strong these tires are gonna hold up, especially when you go down a size or two. But, the sidewall strength
doesn’t necessarily come straight from the
technology, because actually, a lot of sidewalls that have
a lot of technology in them, a lot of like, race
performance oriented tires and things like that
actually will sometimes have less sidewall strength
overall, than a tire that just maybe not have as
much technology or as much, you know, thought into
the sidewall as a lot of those higher echelon of tires. Sidewall strength is super
important because when you’re bending it back, essentially
when you’re tightening it up, and you’re pulling it back,
you’re gonna put more stress on the sidewall of your
tire and as a result, what you’re gonna end up
doing is that if you don’t have a proper tire that
has good sidewall strength, that has good rubber contact, that is, I don’t know if I want
to say the word firm. Because that sounds wrong. But, you’re gonna want to
make sure that when you’re looking at tires that you get something that’s gonna have a strong sidewall patch. Now, a lot of times
people want to run, like, Toyo Proxe r888r’s
because they have a very aggressive set up, and they
want to stretch them down so that for some reason you
can have a track oriented tire on a not track oriented wheel. That’s really not gonna
work out for you very well, because those tire sidewalls aren’t meant for that sort of thing. And the second thing that
you’re gonna want to remember is the highest price tire
does not automatically mean that it’s the best tire for stretching. Now, we’ve all made that mistake before, we’ve all thought we
wanted to run the coolest, highest price tires, or we
wanted to run some Super Sports or Pilot Sports or 4S’s
or something like that, and then turns out you can’t
stretch them worth a damn, because they just don’t stretch. And that’s completely
fine, but a lot of people make that mistake because
they just think that if they spend a lot of money of a good
tire, that it’s automatically gonna stretch, and
that’s just not the case. Tire stretching is very
unique in what it does and what you’re supposed to
do, and in the most extreme cases really nothing’s
going to be able to do the proper amount of function as the same tire on a proper setup. But, in terms of only
going down a size or two, you can still get some performance
out of a stretched tire or a stretched down tire. For instance, my 315 25’s
on my car personally, would be considered stretched down a size. Now, does that mean that
it’s terrible and that I’ve lost all performance? Absolutely not, it’s just
the way that the fender needs to be set up with
the overall fitment. So I know you guys usually
get upset when we talk about stretched tires, but
keep that in mind before we go into what tires to stretch. So a couple of our favorites would be the Falcon 912, the Nexen SU1,
the CP672, which is also a Nexen tire, the Kumho
Ecsta, and then you can also get a couple others under the books. But those are kinda gonna
be some of our favorites. If you want something a
little bit more aggressive, also a good tire to stretch
would be the Federal 595. And we are going to go into
all of these in just a minute. So, first off, the Federal- (blows raspberry) it’s not the Federal. First off, the 912, so the 912
is like, the tire to stretch. If there was a tire to stretch,
everybody’s talking about the 912 on the forums, and
in fact the 512 was probably one of the most iconic stretch
tires that you could get. They could run three,
four sizes down and handle it absolutely fine and hold
air and wouldn’t break bead, and it just did a good job, it was just a chunky tire
that go the job done. Now, it wasn’t the most
aggressive tire to look at, but it definitely didn’t matter because that’s not what people really wanted. The 912 ended up replacing
it, and the 912 is still a very good tire, but a lot
of people that love the 512 usually aren’t jumping up to the 912 because they’ve switched to Nexen. And Nexen is another brand
that we’ve talked about. The SU1, which is an N’Fera (blows raspberry) The Nexen, which is an N’Fera tire, is a really good tire to stretch. Now, the difference between
the 912 and the other one… The difference between
the the 912 and the SU1 is the SU1 comes in a lot wider sizes. So the 912 is only gonna go up to a 265 whereas the SU1 goes up to a 295. In terms of what the differences are besides obviously the tread pattern is the Nexen does seem to have
a little bit more flexibility in terms of a wider sizes,
but Nexen is just a brand that a lot of people are running
now in the current day, whereas the 912’s and 512’s aren’t as common as what they used to be. So, we have a lot of guys
here at the shop that actually run a stretch tire setup,
and they run the SU1’s. Now, the 672’s are also
a great tire to stretch if you’re looking to
get something like that. Now, Nexen has a lot of good
tires that you can stretch but the CP672 is also a
good option just because it’s an affordable tire,
that gets the job done, that lasts a while, and
stretches extremely well. So, between the 672 and the SU1, it’s all personal preference,
I know a lot of people here at our own shop will
tell you to run the 672, and a lot of people will tell you to run the SU1 on Facebook, so
it’s completely up to you, but in terms of which one to pick, they’re both absolutely solid options. In terms of the Federal
595 that’s probably a more aggressive tire setup, it’s
gonna give you a meatier look and it’s gonna look nice
and it’s gonna perform well. One thing you do have to
keep in mind thought with the Federal 595 is that the
sidewall is just a little bit bulkier than most,
and a lot of Federal tires seem to have that bubble. The Toyo’s have that too with the r888r’s where it’s just more of a beefy sidewall. So do take that into
consideration if you plan on stretching the 595, but
it’s a great option as well. We’ve seen people stretch
595’s on 13 and 14 wides, and still hold air just fine. But keep in mind that with
the 595 you are generally paying a little bit more,
and in terms of what you get out of it, I’d say it’s
pretty minimal compared to the price that you’re gonna
have to pay in comparison to the SU1, the 672, or the 912. And probably one of my
favorites is the Kuhmo Ecsta. Now, the Kuhmo Ecsta is
not a performance tire, it’s not a summer tire, it’s not, I mean I think they might
even call it a summer tire, but it’s not anything too crazy. But what I do love about the
Kuhmo Ecsta is that’s something I ran personally and had an
absolute great time with it. I had a 10 wide wheel with I
believe it was 225 50 on it, and it handled it like a dream. Over time, had absolutely
no issues with it. And the other tires I’ve stretched
in the past for different cars that we have done here at the shop or that we’ve built in my
garage with like one flashlight, in the freezing temperatures of Wisconsin. I always put the Kuhmo’s on
if I had to do a size down for fender flares or anything like
that and it never misbehaved, it was an absolutely great
tire at a great price. And it’s something that
I would recommend too, if you’re looking to get into a set. So if you’re looking for
something that’s a little more, like, aggressively oriented, the Federal 595 is a great looking tire. If you’re looking for
something that’s just going to get the job done and is
what a lot of people are running right now, the CP672
and the SU1 are a great option. If you’re looking for
more of a classic that has probably the most information behind it, the 912 is an awesome option. And finally, if you just
wanna what Alex likes, you can get the Kuhmo Ecsta too. But let us know in the comments what you guys want us to talk about. If this is something you
want us to talk about a little bit more in
terms of stretched tires, and if you’re interested in these tires, we’ll actually drop links
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  1. How about hankook ventus v12? Are they suitable for reliable 1st or even 2 stage stretch? I have 18×9 and 18×10.5 was hoping to run 245 front and 275 rear. But based off your how to stretch video im looking for a stage 2 stretch front and rear.
    Need a 35 profile tire.
    Help is def appreciated!

  2. Accelera Phi R.. Have held up perfectly for me and they run thin for more aggressive stretch! Running 205/40 on 17×10

  3. always had good experience stretching Hankook V12’s for very wide large diameter wheel setups. was running a 255/30 on an 11

  4. So apparently the Falken ZIEX ZE-912 has been replaced with ZIEX ZE-950? Any significant difference between them anyone know of?

  5. 😂😂😂😂😂 I’ve never heard of 99% of the brands you sell wtf. Wtf is a Manzarani wheel? 😂😂😂😂😂

  6. Personnaly I once had Falken ZIEX bought at walmart for half of a cheap tire price and… didn't even bother using them more than one season… they're terrible on water and nothing like Toyo Proxes into performance… but Yeah They'll cost You 300$ for 4… proxes will is a little more than twice that…

  7. so 225/40 PS4S on a 10 wider is a nay ? you briefly brought them up but was curious as to, do they give any stretch at all or will it eventually push back?

  8. nitto NT05 tires have a great look when stretched for anyone wondering, but you cannot mega stretch them, i had 205's on i believe a 9 inch wheel.

  9. Federal 595 are a terrible tire even with no stretch the edges wear like shit with the minimal amount of camber DO NOT stretch then all 595 should be used for is drifting since they cheap af

  10. to see how your stretched tires would fit on a wheel. and if you are trying to just make sure your wheel fits on a tire correctly then just go on and look up the tires you are thinking of getting and it tells you the rim widths they fit on. takes some of the guess work away and even tells you the recommended width the tire likes.

  11. I've owned 3 of the tires on this list without having any idea they were good for stretching. They were just on sale xD
    (595, ZE912, Ecsta 4XII)

  12. 2:30 I stretched Pilot super sports and it worked out just fine. 225/40r18 on a 10.5j fronts and 235/35r18 on 11j rears

  13. I have a stretched down a size (225 to 215) and the rims' offset makes it look like a poke fitment but my rims is just about the fender, so it's kinda not? Stock suspension so I had to do the math. Looks good and classy IMO.

  14. All the Mexicans were running this style in Vegas in 1996 glad to see were all running something "fresh" God I feel old

  15. In order to stretch a tyre, does that require the tyre to have a soft sidewall? so basicly if i want a tyre that handles and feels good i should get one that wont stretch? 🙂

  16. yes please i would like you to make a video on how certain tires look with certatin strches and also take a look into this new company nokian the new as serious
    and alos explain the driifernets between xl tire as and none xl becasue in my opinion xl give you that extra stretched lip cover look witch i like i dont like bare lips please please please thank you

  17. Im so glad i watched this. Now i can pick better tires. I thought you were going to talk about price. Would have been nice to know, but i can also look it up lol.

  18. Whatever happened to wide tires? I feel like a dinosaur and I’ve been in the car game since before I could drive and I’m only 24 in a month

  19. All tires that he name are tires that run small basically check the dimensions get tires that run small you can have a 255/35 at 10.1 inches wide small or 255/35 11 inch large

  20. Yo dudes – could you do a video on how much force it would actually take to blow different tyres off different sized rim? Maybe chuck in any stories/ experiences if you guys have any ?

    Personally im looking at fitting some performance 195 45 tyres on my 8x 15 inch rota grids (idgaf, rotas are cool a-f) and i wanna know if id be at risk of them blowing off on a track day or if i caught a medium sized pothole mid corner 🙂

  21. Aw yeah! I've got the Kumho Ecsta's that I used to do a slight stretch and had no problem seating the bead either.

  22. So I was wondering are federal 595 215 35 18 really $99,999,999 or is that a typo on your site lol I took a screen shot of it

  23. I ran federal 595 (195/40) on my 16x10wides… dumb stretch, never popped a bead, and I drove on them like they were non stretched meaty set up with -7 on all 4 wheels. I will forever run 595 for stretch

  24. What are the worst tires to run? You only talked about the good and only used Pilot Sports as an example

  25. Planning on running a set of 595s in 195 50 15 on a set of 15 x 7s. I Know it's not much of a stretch but the video helped me out on making my decision on what to get.

  26. ok so i have federals 595 rpms and i got side wall bubbles on the inner sidewall is it because it's a cheaper federal? i see a lot of people run stretch and they don't seem to have a problem… do i need a better tire so this doesn't happen?

  27. I have Michelin defender tores they are brand new. Would it be ok to stretch those 215/70/15's onto a 10 wide wheel.. I love the stretched tire look and drive a 1990 Lincoln towncar but bought these tires before I seen the crazy stretch.. thanks and keep up the great videos

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