Is Bigger Better? 15 Inch Vs 17 Inch Wheels & Tires

Is Bigger Better? 15 Inch Vs 17 Inch Wheels & Tires


have you ever wondered if bigger Willy is better or if wider really is better well we’re here to find out everyone enjoys a little bit of wheel and tire science and today we’re gonna do exactly that by comparing this 15-inch set up versus this 17-inch set up on our case whopped ek Civic it’s a car if you’re a subscriber to our channel that you’ll be familiar with already but it’s 99 SI coupe it’s sort of a semi track car it’s a street track car so it’s it’s a car where a lot of guys would opt for a 15-inch set up like we did initially this is a fifteen by seven and a half inch cone achhi program in race bronze and it’s equipped with 225 45:15 front and 205 5015 rear in nine kang’s new sport necks a r1 semi slicks it’s a 100 tread wear semi slick tire very popular in Europe and Asia and it’s just starting to make its way over to North America now and we’ve also equipped the 17-inch set up with that same neck hang a r1 these are 17 by 8 plus 45 Koenig decagrams in their semi matte black finish and really what we want to find out is is it worth is it worth making the trade-off between lightness and a shorter tire which is better for gearing or acceleration versus a taller and heavier wheel entire package that has a wider contact patch so by going to these two 35:47 teens in the front and a 215 in the rear we’ve widened the contact patch both front and rear versus our 15-inch setup but we’ve also added almost an inch and a half in overall diameter which if you know anything about the way tire sizing works is the taller the tire the longer your effective gearing becomes so it’s harder to accelerate this it’ll raise your top speed a bit but it also hurts acceleration of it weight also matters these are this is unsprung weight we’re talking about here which is the most important kind and this package weighs 6 pounds more than this package so we’re also making a trade-off in weight or and in particular unsprung weight by going up to the 17 inch so is the gearing gonna hurt us is the weight gonna hurt us or it’s all that really matter is grip and it’s wider really better that’s what Wharram gonna find out by starting by doing a base liner in these 15s and throwing the 17s on there and seeing if we go any faster okay guys I guess I should mention that we are here at Toronto Motorsports Park my home away from home it is an 11 turn 2 kilometer long road course south of Hamilton Ontario and it’s a cool day today it’s only about 10 or 11 degrees Celsius so maybe 50 Fahrenheit or so just warm enough I would say to get temperature into these 100 treadwear Nanking AR ones think about this relatively short tire setup is that I find if I go down to second gear I’m just banging the rev limiter as soon as I come out of corners so I’m leaving it at the third gear in a lot of the slower corners and just having to get on the gas sooner but kind of in between tears and a few places here so it’ll be interesting to see if by going to the 17th if I’m in a better gear I’ll be able to use second gear I think and that might actually be an advantage [Music] [Music] [Music] all right time to swap on the 17th but before we do that I should give you a quick rundown on how the car performed on the 15th our best lap time was a 122 5 which is almost as fast as this cars ever gone and in these cool like late fall conditions I think that’s as good as we’re gonna do so off come the 15s which I could feel her are nice and warm so we were getting a good amount of heat into them and the car will rotate with some trail braking it’s just not rotating as early as I would want but not everybody likes a loose front-wheel drive car doesn’t necessarily inspire confidence it’s just the way I like the car setup by the way we should mention these cone eggs are a flow formed wheel these tend to be about 25% lighter than a cast wheel and also a lot stronger and stiffer which is perfect for a track car like ours same goes for our decagrams also a flow formed wheel so we’ve got a true back-to-back comparison in terms of wheel stiffness and wheel weight per size but like I mentioned before these are about 6 pounds heavier than those up front these 225s are still looking good although you can see a front-wheel drive car really does use the odor shoulder a lot it’s already rounded it off of it we know we didn’t really see that on rear wheel drive cars but great compound very sticky and I really like how skip the side wall is on these necking air ones gives the car really quick responsive steering input feel and you can see these big 235 well here a quick side-by-side you can see there’s quite a difference in contact patch we’ll throw some stats up on the screen right now where you can see the difference in section width but these are quite a bit wider but I don’t know how they’re gonna affect the gearing up there on the 15s a lot of places where if I would go down to second gear in a corner I’m on the rev limiter coming out of the corner and that’s just not ideal so I was leaving in 2/3 in most of the corners with this taller tire I’m gonna be able to go to second gear and I won’t be on the rev limiter until I’m up onto the straight and make it clean shift in the third so even though they’re taller and should theoretically hurt acceleration the gearing might match up better for this track being being that it is taller so one way to find out well come on here [Music] just trying that second here and a few corners here to see how much difference the taller tire makes it I can definitely use second in places where I couldn’t on the 15th so it’s may play out to be a bit of a a story of better gearing for this track really given the 17th an advantage but I will also say that front grip feels really good on these 235 there’s definitely something to be said for a wider front contact patch on a front-wheel drive car gets rid of a lot of its tendency to understeer and just feels like grip level is higher I’m not still just putting heat the tire – so initial impressions are feeling promising I could probably go down to second gear around here too interesting I’m gonna take some learning on these 17s people [Music] I also don’t need fifth on the front straight anymore which is nice because then I don’t have to make that four three downshift just always a bit of a busy job little bit of understeer but I think quite a bit lesson on the 225 205 setup [Music] get rotation there yes ballots Stefan don’t know why cuz it’s still staggered but to set up the cars liking [Music] because Pontiac knew what they were saying those old commercials where they said wider is better Peter because wider was definitely better on the front of our ek civic the 235 performed they added a bunch of grip and really changed the feel of the car a lot to the turning response was much better the the overall grip level on turnin felt higher mid corner there was less push corner exit there was less push and like we talked about before the gearing was always gonna be a wild card it just depends on what track you’re at but today the taller tire actually gave me better gearing here because I was able to use second gear in a lot of the slower corners where I couldn’t on the fifteens so we went a half second faster we went from a 120 to 5 on the 15s to a 120 to Oh on the 17s and I would attribute that to the gearing and the fact that the car really did feel grippier on the wider tires front and rear it also changed the handling balance a lot and even though we ran a staggered setup which you know had roughly the same amount of stagger front to rear for whatever reason this on this 17 is setup the car felt freer it felt more willing to rotate it felt like it had less understeer in it like head to head same car same days same driver same track just swapping from 15 to 17 s there’s no question of Seventeen’s the wider contact patch had an advantage and the gearing played a factor it won’t always be that way but I think regardless of the gearing the extra grip on a on the front end of a front-wheel drive car is going to deliver better grip and better performance in our lap times as long as you’re not over tiring the car to the point that it’s got more tire than s power race and she’s watching that we can talk to a very knowledgeable man about with mr. Chris Morris buy one of the fast guys around he’s run every wheel inside our wheel and tire size you can imagine on the front end of his ek Civic comment that car so let’s go have a chat with him this is Chris Boersma and this is his K tune horse racing he K Civic and if you follow Time Attack you’ll know this car Chris has been very competitive pretty much the dominant car in what is Super Street yep limited trout modified classes series run in yep so CSCS super street and GG is limited and then good life is track modified track records everywhere you can find them on the internet much more easy and you’ll learn more about it but the car is super cool so maybe let’s just do a quick rundown on what the car is now yep I love the fact that you state B Series which is unusual these days yeah it’s still traditional V Series B Series block with a type our heads type our cam let’s join a turbo okay a very small turbo options only have thirty 7602 GTX 230 76 on there 83 dar housing and we over speed the crap out of it and we managed to make about 600 horsepower on this turbine and on another turbine that we run there 101 we can manage about 650 at about 140 thousand rpm on the turbo speed Wow what’s interesting with in the context of today is the fact that you’ve run a million different wheel and tire centered on the tire yep he started off on 15s like every week started at 1515 by sevens on a 205 and then we went to a 225 we read 15 by 8 with a 9 for 9 wheels and then you know slowly kind of got to the limit of that setup and decided to go to 17s what was the logic to go up to 70s because you couldn’t run a wider it’s all about the tire size I mean the widest tire we could get with the 15s or the 225 at that point right and we were making about 400 will work so it’s pretty easy to spin up to 25 yeah the TDS that come out at that point and they were the hot tire will I um was running them on his cars we kind of had to catch up yeah so we we went to the 255 s that they had okay get a wider tire and hopefully more contact patch and did it help it really did the taller tire actually really helpful on low speed corners okay which we thought was very counterintuitive but with the power that we were making it actually helped kind of get the car off the corners just and put the fire down which was actually kind of cool okay and so as the car started to make more power you needed more fire yeah we just kept adding more and more tire and then eventually got to a point where 17 we couldn’t go wide enough there wasn’t a 285 that we could you know we could go with so we we moved up to an 18 inch wheel at Boyd’s we could fit a 285 re 71 on the car right and we ran that for a while and again it was the same thing just seemed like the more tire you put on the faster the car got the easier it was to drive yeah and it’s surprisingly easy to fit big tires on these cars they’re cheap oil under flares and we didn’t even run the fender flares until we went to the e-teens we actually managed to fit the 17s under an OEM fender you just space the fender off okay and hit it with a with a find it out and get a really big hammer and you think you’re done really not you got to get the biggest hammer and just hit it as hard as you can for as long as you can and it makes space and you’ve just got even bigger now today we decided to go to the 19-inch wheel package so that we can run the Kubo v7 20 ACR tire we knew about that tire for a while but we couldn’t find anybody who actually made a 19-inch wheel yeah and we want a partnering up with Koenig they made big Ultra forums and a 19 by 10 and a half and what about the rear so the rear it’s a weird kind of stagger setup that we run it’s a 17 by 8 in the rear on an RV 71 tire so it’s a different compound how wide is it it’s a 225 45:17 very interesting hear from Chris how big you can really go on wheel and tire in the front of a front drive car if you have enough power to use all that grip by the way we didn’t talk about the aesthetic part of this deal what do you guys think of the 17s versus the 15s I think the car looks great on both setups personally I guess I’m kind of old-school I like the look of the 15s and I should also mention that the taller wheel and tire package this.f needs does raise ground clearance it doesn’t change ride height technically but it changes ground clearance which is good for the old pan because it sits really low on this car as a matter of fact we have we have made contact with that l5 on the old 15-inch setup so this does add some ground clearance for safety and it does affect arrow negatively by getting the body of the car up higher you’re getting more airflow under the car and it’s gonna try to lift at higher speeds so if you’re gonna run a big wheel and tire package like this at the racetrack you probably want to address that by putting a splitter and lower side skirts and stuff on it to prevent too much air from getting under there and lifting so something to consider with these two different setups I would say on the street I’ve driven both on the street and the 15s to me felt more comfortable maybe because there’s more sidewall compliance in the 15s than the 17s being a lighter wheel and tire package – I definitely feel the difference in the steering wheel with the 15s there’s less steering effort with the 15s where then with the 17s there’s more that’s maybe because the weight and also because of the wider contact axle is just more scrub happening with the wider lots going on here but really it shouldn’t try both and to be honest I’m a fifteen-inch guy I didn’t think I was gonna like the 17 kind of solo I’m Seventeen’s now though because the stopwatch doesn’t lie and I like to go fast it’s you know going fast we should quickly thank nan Kang tire for these AR ones a very fast 100 showed of our tire that you guys should all have a closer look at which also thank koenig wheels for sending along these 17 my decagrams as well as those 15-inch hi programs and we should thank Chris Boersma too for all that Intel on we look tire sizes you’re on a race track with a helmet on and you’re driving 30 K in an m3 like a douchebag BMW driver alert Oh

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  1. So you attempt to appear scientific bu comparing two sets of tires and simultaneously changing two variables. So does the width affect performance? The tire diameter? Or is it a combination of the two? I guess we'll never know. How about 15s with 235/215 width or 17s with 225/205? What about ride? Sidewall flex? Acceleration? Different cars with differing gear ratios (tighter/ wider)? You created more questions and provided no real answers.

  2. Put a decent muffler on that car…..
    Its obnoxious as hell.
    I'd be too embarrassed to drive that thing sounding like that…

  3. In my opinion, you could improve this test by choosing wheel and tyre combinations that give the same overall rolling diameter for comparison. (Increasing the rolling diameter of the wheel, as you did with the 17" setup, does actually increase the size of the contact patches. It also affects the gearing as you pointed out in your video. But, perhaps most importantly, it changes the ride height – the CoG has moved up in Z, away from the ground plane – which puts all your suspension setup out of kilter.) All can be easily resolved if you using the same rolling diameter setups for comparison. Nice vid though, thanks for sharing.

  4. I would stick with 15s and run a larger tire. Your limitations are tire size and clearance. Find the smallest diameter wheel that fits over the brakes and go from there.

  5. I think I have seen Japanese tuners run wider tires on the front and standard size in the rear. On the front they go wider and one size smaller sidewall. To keep weight and balance.

  6. People. You need a scientific approach on that? Wider tires will generally offer more grip. If they can fit without obstructing something in your car. Taller tyres, will leave less workload on the suspension, leaving you an comfortable car, but at the same time, during cornering, stiffness is recused. The opposites are true.

  7. Rule of thumb: put the smallest diameter wheel that fits over your brakes & the widest wheel that doesn’t hit strut or poke out past the fender

  8. Very good commentary!!
    We were just thinking of changing from 15 to 17.
    Guess 17 is kind of harder for the steering wheel but better performance?

  9. Don't know why people hate civics? It's those ricers who put fartcan on them and ruin it! This Civic is a proper race car and sounds awesome

  10. Big wheels for big calipers and brake rotors, smaller/lighter wheels give less rolling resistance especially in petrol engine with small torque. In modern diesel when you've got over 400Nm with weight curb around 1600kg it doesn't matter that you have 16,17 or 18" wheel, but size give bigger choice to find grip

  11. I had a mb w123 with sport sudpension. Moderate tuned and had 190 hp (6inline). That one was absolutely fantastic with 205/55 15". Expensive Falken tyres. It was so glued to the road (except hilltops or sudden downhills) it gave pre warnings in the corners. And even when it smoothly started 4wheel sliding( the kind the speed cause/not spinning) i could turn more and even do kickdown in those long corners. I miss that car. Its was styled the same way as a beutiful Granada Ghia with Sec hood (complete white with no chrome) and looked like those 280se on the back. Just caused that spoiler.(white as the car). And the strange thing i noticed with that one was the frontwheels. When i stood at rearside filling gas i noticed very like angles as F1 cars. Maybe i was superlucky. Profile on tyres and the shape at sides was quite udentical aswell. So it was far away from having those originalwheels you can se somewhere in there. The only car i have had where it never existed any wear on suspension parts ever. Also my V70 when i bought 225/40 or 45 17" helped much. But it was annoying frontheavy. Because the whole engine is in front of the front axle. My Bmw is other stuff. (I test my cars so i know them well, handy in need) but noticed traction control can be extreme in high speed. Had 160 into a short corner and there was halfway black ice. Boom and it became almost as hitting railroadtracks. BUT I RECOMMEND TO NOT TEST IT OUT ON NORMAL COUNTRYSIDE ROAD. Or else tight of space. But still. Getting known with what the things in the car do should be obligatory. I testdrove Jaguar I-Pace (electric 400hp) with winterwheels it pulled to left on full accelleration. But very good SUV. Tight of space. But as compact, cool. That car was equipped with assistent for countrysides. If the car noticed you were on the way out of the road it corrected the steering into the road again. I made me dare to guide it to the ditch slowly and prepared to correct it myself in the very last. In the most of the times it worked. But sometimes i dont know. I corrected it myself when i felt the car would be to late. I have always had it roomy on park lots. But when i returned the car to the "stand" it was like almost getting crashed on from 5 angles two times. I guess duch happen when expensive cars aint yours thing😂Good to experience and learn since ive have only beeing driving trucks and semies with TC. On by E39 Bmw i have some good coilovers(roadlegal) and 235/40 18" and on rear 255 35 18". And that one is so stabile that it will not give pre warning in corners when too much speed. The way it just simple taking wider turn then planned and that happen fast. But else they are good and i am satisfied. No sway. But im surprised that so much of a cars weight can lean so much over on one side without feeling it on the car. So when a 2 litre standard engine getting the TC activated in cornering, obvious it started to spin on the inner wheel. Car tested. Not daily stuff as "young stupidity" the only wrong i found with your car is thst it is FWD:) those civic sedans are cool. Liked those in FF movie. And black rims fit totally 👍 🙂 on those:)

  12. After driving a while on my E39 on roadlegal coilovers i wonder why normal coil suspension is legal. They are much better. The range on them are made knowing the car is lower and cant do same absorbing range. If i forgetting a short high speed bump in moderate too fast for it. The car neither slams the ground or jumps. The shockers stop the car reaching down. And they have 2 different types if coil springs. So i driving quite soft in normal conditions and they other take over from there. I have with original dudpension on a frontheavy Volvo slammed so hard that it is undescribeable. BUT THAT "HEADACHE" of convinsed car should got bended . And i knew it was there but just underestimated it. And normal lowering kits slam down in situations like that. Had s ford sierra with liwering kit and that one got bended and windshield cracked over the while middle after a jump. So my conclution is that coilovers are the best bedides sir suspension. Thst would also been good combo with the dampers and where it stop before hitting tarmac. But i struggle a bit with norwegian "high roads" some times a year. (When the middle of the road reaching up between the wheels) my car isnt even so low as it can legally be. So therefor i say the road reach UP😉 so i have 2cm more i can lower it in the front. But havent done that because my next tyres in front will have lower profile:) my car is legal with different with and those dimensions. But i dont know if i can have different radius on rim and tyre on it. As for exampla 19" bak and 18" or 17" in front wheels. I have been driving with different variables of such and i dont ser what should been the problem on a rwd car. That my rear wherls was wider didnt do any bad at all. The laws in europe are more strict then Usa when it comes to some details.

  13. If you take a spinner in your hand (heavier type of metall etc) and blow it up at a high speed with air gun and simulate turning wheel you notice what more the power steering and the rack goes through under fast maneuvering:)

  14. normal user no need expensive cwaste money new wheels and tires. newer, genuine wheels have good and no have anything better buy expensive new wheels.

  15. U can expect easy rim damage with the 17s. If u drive on the average crappy road, keep some rubber between the rim and road surface.

  16. I bought hypers for my car because of this video. They look great amd i cant wait to throw my proxes rr on them

  17. Oh definitely bigger is not better wider can be better if your car has enough horsepower to make it worthwhile

  18. Not sure why you had to change the overall diameter of the tire with the 17" rim… Shouldn't you have gone with a smaller side wall to keep your overall O.D similar to stock. The taller tire messes up with your gearing. It's this common to do for track cars?

  19. Handles better with original wheel, and tire if you know and drive Honda. You know 15 is the best fit why fix something that isn't necessary.

  20. Tire diameter and width have nothing to do with wheel diameter. For example, all NASCAR race cars run 15" diameter wheels and 28/10-15 tires, i.e., 28" diameter and 10" wide. By comparison your 235/40R17 tires are 24.4" diameter and 9.3" wide.

  21. Eh. Ride Quality, MPG, Cost goes up.. too much impacted with bigger heels. I find a good wider tire and suspension updates including sway bars is where it really is At. I have a 92 VW GTI 16v on 15" TSW wheels and all Neuspeed.

  22. Great comparison in gear ratios for the map! However, results like time would be slightly skewed because you were comparing a used tire with a brand new one.

  23. THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG!!! BIGGER WHEELS JUST FOR FUN…NOTHING WRONG WITH IT…ITS ALL ABOUT THE CAR LOOK!

  24. My VR6 handled much better with 15inch wheels with 205/50/15 tyres than with the 205/45/17…never done any times but feel and the way the car moved way miles better.
    It always felt like it was on tip toes with the 17s.

  25. Considering I don't do track work, I drive on public roads with constantly changing surface quality and conditions, I prefer smaller wheels with more tyre. But if I lived where the roads are wide, flat and consistent, I'd go for a more track oriented focus.

  26. 15:50: "You're on a race track, with your helmet on. And you're driving $30K, in an M3, like a douchebag. BMW dri-ver al-ert."

  27. Thumb rule, smaller diameter have faster acceleration and better braking. Unless you turbo charge a motor, I see no absolute reason to upgrade to larger size. Those goes for looks is different story, absolutely no improvements overal, except slowing you down.

    If u thinking larger size does helps, it does in top speed, slightly stable and heavier, follow the factory specs and you will not go wrong.

    As for tires thinner than 50 series, those seriously are for track use, its extremely uncomfortable for daily drive, except BMW Mercs Volvo Audi that comes factory stock, the suspension and chassis were designed for it.

    To increase performance, simply go easy by adding Strut bars, better suspensions, good tires, and alot of training. Go larger diameter IF you add HP and TORQUE to your motor, if not, its a waste of time and reduced performance. Worst case, losing with larger diameter to a factory stock car of the same model. And make a joke of yourself for the day.

  28. I would go as small as possible, but my car didn't allow me to use wheel smaller than 16", so I go to 17" instead (and the previous owner use 20" instead, which was awful and I change it with 17" wheels).

  29. If the circumference is bigger the car's CPU is going to show you less on the speedometer depending on the factory settings and the wheel size they choose to use. So lets say you are a moron and bigger rims and wheels cuz it looks lit, you will be actually damaging the engine. Vice versa for putting smaller ones… USE FACTORY SETTINGS im 10000% sure you are not smarter than the engineers who assemble cars every working day.

  30. I know these cars aren’t related in any way, but I wanna see this civic vs the Mighty car mods 2sexy stancer

  31. MISTER, THE COMMENTS BELOW OF ^opelwasp^ ARE REALLY THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU SAY YOU FEEL MUCH BETTER WITH WIDER AND BIGGER…BUT WHAT THE MAKERS OF THIS CAR CAN SAY ABOUT USING 17 OR 15 ??? WHAT THEY SAY ??? I THINK YOUR CAR IS TOO SMALL IN POWER TO USE 17… EVEN 15 IS TOO BIG FOR YOU…I HAVE A MAZDA MX-6, V6, BODY WIDER THAN YOUR CAR AND THE MAKER OF THIS CAR SAYS I HAVE TO USE IN TIRES THE FIGURES 205-15-55 … AND DO NOT CHANGE THAT…
    FROM THE MAKER IT IS THE FIGURE… WHAT IS THE FIGURE FROM THE MAKER FOR YOUR CAR ???? I SENSE IS 14 BUT WIDE. YOU FEEL MUCH BETTER YOUR CAR IN CURVES BECAUSE THE TIRES ARE HEAVIER…THAT IS THE FEELING OF ANYBODY WHEN THE TIRE IS BIGGER… BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PARTS THERE ??? WERE THEY MADE FOR BOTH.. 14, 15 AND 17 AS YOU THINK ???? I THINK NO… THE HEAVY CARS AS CORVETTE, PORSHE WITH A BIG ENGINE YES…THEY CAN USE ANY NUMBER BECAUSE THOSE PARTS AT THE TIRE ARE VERY BIG AND STAND THOSE NUMBERS… WE THE CAR OWNERS USE TO COPY THE SIZE OF THE TIRES THOSE BIG CARS USE…BUT ALL OF IT IS JUST COPY WITHOUT THE REAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE LIMIT ON THESE PARTS AS THE ONES OF YOUR CAR…
    I USE 15 BUT VERY HIGH IN EFFICIENCY… I USE TODAY TOYO PROXES BUT IN THE FUTURE I WILL USE MICHELIN…THE BEST ONE IN EFFICIENCY BUT MY NUMBER… I AM CLOSE TO INSTALL 20 POUNDS OF TURBO IN MY CAR… AND I WILL USE THOSE TIRES…BUT THE BEST ONES… SHORT LIFE BUT HIGH GRAB TO ROAD

  32. MISTER…WHEN THE MAKER OR MANUFACTURER OF THE CARS LEAVES A SPACE OF 2 OR THREE INCHES BETWEEN THE BUMPER AND THE TIRE IS NOT FOR A MISTAKE…AND THE SIZE OF THE TIRE THE MAKER PUTS IN THE CARS AS ORIGINAL ONE IS THE CORRECT SIZE FOR THE CAR BUT YOU DONT KNOW THAT… VERY BAD…IT MEANS YOU DONT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT CARS TO BE HERE … URIEL JURADO, PANAMA, JUNE-26-2019, [email protected]

  33. I don`t drive like this guy, but at least I gave more info about the actual title of this video in my 4 min video clip.

  34. Better choices for future experiments … some people commented there were two variable changes, but there were 3; height, width, and weight.

    Same height and width tire, different size wheels (affects of profile on performance).

    Same profile and width tire, different height (affects of overall diameter on performance).

    Same height, profile, different widths (affects on performance; sweet spot for your specific car).

    Same height, width, profile, different weights (affects of weights on performance; RPF1 vs cosmetic heavy wheels).

    bonus round; the skinniest, tallest sidewall (smallest wheel to fit brakes) stock wheel and tire height vs the widest, lowest profile tire that can be found in stock wheel and tire height to show the extremes (of stretching and meaty builds).

    A balanced FR 50/50ish car like a BRZ/FRS/86 or RX7/8 would be a great car for this purpose imo.

    Like these kinds of tests, but would like to see a more apples to apples comparison instead of switching up pretty much everything between the two sets … besides using two different civics!

  35. The real question here is. Does the 17s rub against the fender when you turn them all the way I just bought some for my civic but not sure what size tire to go in order to not rub and messed up my fender. This is my daily driver vehicle. Can someone answer my question.

  36. when you're changing the height of the wheel and tire, it's not a reasonable comparison any more because there's the diameter variable included. you should have kept the same diameter between the two wheel setups

  37. My stock wheels are 15j6, now I'm using 17j7 215/40 always I go to wheel center to repair it. Dammit!

  38. Haha. 1. I think im going to know how to drive this track of i ever make it there. So mNy vids.
    2. Outro is epic. Lol

  39. After switching from 15x65x185 to 17x45x215 automatic trans, i noticed a small delay in acceleration when pressing the pedal hard. I should have replaced the tires from balloon(stock) to flat type and not the rims. Maybe it should have accelerate faster. The 17 looks nice though.

  40. I like the small wheel big tyre look especially on old school cars but it all comes down to what is fastest at the track.

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