How the 2020 Audi RS6 Avant Could Resurrect the American Wagon | WheelHouse

How the 2020 Audi RS6 Avant Could Resurrect the American Wagon | WheelHouse

– The Station Wagon was
once the vehicle of choice for the American family but
it went away with a whimper. R.I.P On the heels of Audi
announcing their RS6 Avant coming to America, finally, the wagon has stepped in the spotlight once again. (upbeat music) But what caused the wagon’s
demise in the first place? And are they going to make a
comeback for good this time? I think they might. Just a few weeks ago,
Audi posted this picture teasing 6 of their RS models
to be released in 2019. A week later, another
picture graced the internet, it’s tail lights partially lit and gleaming through the cover. Those tail lights are identical
to the ones on the S6. Leaving all those big
brains and clever girls on the inter webs to make
the connection that it is in fact, the RS6 Avant wagon. Speculation came to an end
when Audi made a statement confirming that the Avant
is on it’s way to the States for the first time in Audi
Sports 25 year history. This is a big deal. But before manufacturers
were hopping up sedans with more trunk space, middle
class America was using the wagon as a means to cross the country to get to grandma’s house. I think there’s a case
to be made that besides the pick up truck, the
station wagon might be the most American vehicle ever. (upbeat music) The first station wagons
were built in the early 1900s by independent companies
fitting custom wooden bodies on Ford model T chassis. Eventually, manufacturers
built their own models in house and switched from wood to steel. The first all steel station
wagon body came in 1935 with the Chevrolet Suburban
and by the early 50s, nearly all the true family mobiles lacked the wood body that was once the norm. But the wood appearance
was a sign of luxury, which is why the wood look was kept by putting wood grain decals or even sometimes panels on the sides. By the 1960s, the
station wagon had reached it’s zenith of popularity in the U.S. There were compact
wagons, mid sized wagons, and yes of course, full sized wagons. And that’s kind of cemented the wagon into the DNA of American vehicle. Pipey youngsters would sit
in the rear facing seats on road trips, playing sweet
or sour, only to realize they’d be stuck facing that same driver for the next 250 miles. We’ve talked about it before
and we’ll talk about it again but the first straw that
broke that wagon’s back was the Oil Crisis of 1972. All these cars had big gas guzzling V8s that put a dent in the old
pocket book at the gas station. So families looked elsewhere
for more economical vehicles to tout their chunky youngsters around. In 1977, Chrysler began working
on a small, affordable van that looked and handled more like a car. Chrysler took a full size
van and shrunk it down a bit so it fit on a station wagon chassis and threw a more fuel efficient engine inside. It was a sales success that
sent the other big manufacturers into a frenzy to build their own version of the miniature van. It wasn’t long before the
SUV also hit the scene and suddenly the American
wagon was at the bottom of the family vehicle totem pole. – Now you can have all this. – Although the market for
wagons began to dwindle here in the ol’ US of A. Overseas, the estate continued
to maintain the popularity. Estate is the same thing
as station wagon but Brits just like that word because
it’s fancier, I’m assuming. Actually I’ve just been
informed that estate is kind of the equivalent to
the projects here in the US so it’s not quite fancy. It does sound fancier though. (upbeat rock music) Those tea drinkers across the pond, the love to outclass us
revolutionaries with their words. Bonnet, which is a hood. They spell tires with a y. But that all backfired when you decided to call sedans saloons. Sedan is a way fancier word. I dare ya to tell me otherwise. (beep) As time went on, wagons and
estates had the tarnished image of being the lame car that your
parents drove you around in. But overseas, they continued
to prosper as the immensely practical do it all vehicle. Audi realizing they could
expand their wagon market, went off and built a performance
version, the RS2 Avant. (car speeding up) It’s the ultimate sleeper, if you will. Audi partnered with Porsche
to take the 2.2 liter turbo charged 5 cylinder from the S2 and squeeze 311 horsepower out of it. A practical car you could
carry your kids around and a month supply of groceries
capable of slamming your kid’s noggin into the headrest and putting your pedal to
the floor, that’s cool. The RS2 started the trend of
performance wagons for Audi and really, all other manufacturers. Volvo, those crazy Sweds,
took notice and came out with the 850R and even raced the damn thing in British Touring Car championship. That’s sick. BMW they got their E34 M5
touring edition into the mix. Touring is the second fancier
word for station wagon. In 2009, Europe got the E61 wagon with a 500 horsepower V10 engine. BMW limited the top speed to 155 but if you got that taken out, it
could hit 200 miles an hour. And speaking of V10s, Audi went
ahead and put a Lamborghini V10 to their 2008 Audi RS6. Just look at all the stuff
that Europe’s getting in those wagons and we’re not. (car driving) If you’re starting to get
some jelly wagon fever and live in America, like me right
now, well we had our chance. Remember when Dodge
built the Magnum in 2005? That thing had all wheel drive and a hemi. SRT even got their hands
on it and made it sicker but with the mortgage crisis of 2008, Dodge cut the Magnum from it’s lineup. Just imagine if the Magnum
had the hellcat engine. Maybe the most popular
wagon produced stateside was the second gen CTSV. GM threw in a supercharged
LS V8, which is basically the C6 Corvette zero one engine. The CTSV wagon went away in
2014 and was the last American made sport wagon that we
could get our hands on. (car driving away) But there is hope on the
horizon because in 2020, Audi is going to bring us the RS6 Avant. (upbeat piano music) Avant, again, another
fancy word for wagon. And this model is going
to be especially cool. A 591 horsepower hybrid
that goes 189 miles per, which only adds to the allure of the wagon and why it’s such a big deal as of late, especially to us USAers. (car driving) You know, I think we’ve been brain washed over the last 20 years to
think that SUVs are somehow more practical when in
actuality, they’re not. They get worse gas mileage,
they’re harder to park especially in cities and no one really uses
those third row seats. The station wagon was replaced
by the minivan, the minivan was replaced by the SUV,
the SUV finally usurped by the crossover. Which leaves the wagon
in a perfect position, ready to jump into the line up
and gain back its popularity. But that will only happen
if people buy them. And yes I know, a $112,000
for a sport wagon isn’t cheap. I want to see a 500+
horsepower wagon built by Ford in the next 5 years. Dammit, I can dream. (beep) Check out our 4 part series
on Ford versus Ferrari at Le Mans, one of the greatest
rivalries ever in sports. There’s love, loss, betrayal
and a whole lot of racing. It’s a great story, one
that we want you to hear so check out Past Gas
wherever you get your podcast. Thank you. Go check it out, Past Gas. It’s about cars, not about farts. It’s a podcast. (beep) When you’re working on your project car, you’re going to get
dirty, it’s inevitable. And when you go to clean
grease off something, grabbing a towel and
unscrewing a bottle of cleaning solution is the
last thing you want to do. That’s why Gunk degreasing
wipes are so convenient. You can grab one and go. They’re super versatile too, you can use Gunk wipes on anything. Tools, tabletops, wheels,
even your dashboard. They’re large, double sided, it’s got a scrubby side and a smooth side and they’re safe for all surfaces. Stay clean and support the
companies that support Donut by getting yourself some Gunk wipes. I love you Brits, I wish I had an accent. Hold on, I’m not done. I wish I had a cool accent,
I’m from California. I’m sure there’s a
Californian accent but since L.A. is in California, all of our movies and all of our TV shows
have California accents in them as well so I don’t
know what it sounds like. This is a big problem. Be nice, I’ll see you next time.

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  1. Hmmmmmm …. anyone else notice the F1 Medical Car …. E63S wagon with a cool Panamericana Grill! 2020 will spec 0-100kph in 3.2 Seconds!! BAM!! The wagon never left….most people can;t afford a hand build AMG V8 Biturbo – but the AMG C43 and AMG E53 Wagons are out too.

  2. If there was anything I'd ever give up my inferno red srt8 magnum for it would be for one of these in red, the mpg just makes it too perfect for road trips through the mountains 🙂

  3. I can’t believe there was no mention of the Holden/HSV sports wagon from Australia!! The very last one had a 570hp supercharged LSA and you could get it in manual.

  4. The main difference with American station wagons and European estates is the European cars are nicer looking and have a sportier look even in the base models.

  5. How you gonna make a video about fast wagons and NOT mention the E63 AMG?! it has more hrsprs at 603 and starts at a lower price than the Audi at $108,850.

  6. Would NEVER work. Why? The country is still tooooo gaga over fake SUVs (quite a few don't even have AWD) to even notice. It's so bad that one brand (I think it's Ford) is afraid it will have to discontinue another car because of very poor sales. I wonder what will happen when gas prices go up 10 cents a gallon. I know they will be dumping their gas hog 2WD SUVS as fast as they can run. The last time there was a gas price increase (under OBAMA) SUVs lost a ton of resale value and were overcrowding used car lots in several cities I visited. And online, people were posting them for sale and literally begging for anything that got over 33 mpg. Even the ancient GEO Metro was a sought after car because of its 3 cylinder engine.

  7. I'm not gonna be even close to be able to afford it, but I've been waiting for the RS6 to come to America for years, I just wanna see that gorgeous beast on the road.

  8. Even if ford did build the wagon we wouldn’t get it because they aren’t selling cars beside the mustang anymore. The Subaru Levorg is the perfect example of this though, Americans just love their SUVs blindly.

  9. If the Magnum SRT8 and CTS-V wagon couldn't do it, there's no saving the American Idiot from thinking they need the supposed off-road ability of their mall crawlers that will never see anything rougher than a dirt road, with their inaccurate assumptions of "more space" despite the average American family actually shrinking.

  10. Maybe it's just another goddamn "Coloradical" thing, but I'm cut off by somebody blind merging their fucking Subaru outback on a near daily basis out here lol. Sure, it's not a performance wagon, but the outback (anywhere from about 1998-current) is alive and well here in the granola state.

  11. Seeing the fusion go from a sedan, to a wagon like the Mondeo, is one of my Ford wet dreams. I own a 1st generation fusion, and have loved it, but keep thinking to myself how absolutely badass the gen 1 would've looked in wagon form. I pray that instead of cancelling the Fusion altogether, they look at how well the rs6 sells, and any other competitors that attempt to follow, and then make the most badass V6 twin turbo AWD ford station wagon to ever be conceived. THAT is something I would throw my money at like pollen to the air.

  12. there are people out there putting hellcats in magnums, and there is a front clip mod from a 2019 charger.

  13. If ford takes out a Ford Mondeo/fusion wagon with the 3.5 Ecoboost or the 3.0 Ecoboost awd with a manual gearbox i would get sexually very very exited

  14. Saloon means "a public room or building used for a specified purpose" this naturally means that we Brits, in our far superior linguistic capabilities are correct in defining the quintessential passenger car, as a natural progression of this "place of specified purpose" to include the interiors of our range rovers, Bentley, rolls Royces, McLaren's and minis (smugs in British)

  15. You seem to have completely glossed over the fact that Mercedes has sold their AMG wagon here since 2004… starting with the E55 wagon and now the E63 wagon. They never stopped selling them because a core demographic of fast wagon enthusiasts (and/or rich people) keep buying them.

  16. Audi’s C6 RS6 didn’t just have a Lamborghini derives V10, it was turbocharged on top of that! It produced almost 600 HP and almost 500 lb•ft of Torque right out of the factory!

  17. Ok, while I admit/understand that wagons aren't popular, if we're talking straight wagons and not "performance wagons" which are far and few between; I feel the opportunity was missed in regard to VW. VW has sold wagons in the US since the 80's. From the Quantum wagon, to the Passat and Jetta wagon variants to the new Golf Sport Wagon. Why were these skipped? I own a 5cyl. Jetta Sporwagen and see tons of them around. Not to mention Subaru…the Forester and Outback are the best selling wagons stateside. Not even a hint towards Subies?!?!? Damn.

  18. I love wagons, I drive a Mercedes E-Class Wagon now and love it, it still has rear facing third row seats and Its the only reason I bought it. Without the third row, the vehicle would be useless to me. With MPG being so much better on small crossovers, the wagon just doesn't make sense to a lot of folks anymore. And the performance oriented bunch would do just as well with a sedan.

  19. Not gonna lie, I would love another magnum wagon. At least a charger wagon. Dodge can easily do that but it's a matter of market interest. Someone did it with Tesla.

  20. V Dub has been selling wagons here since…ever. SUV cargo, 35+ MPG, and as easy to drive and park as a Jetta…since they are Jettas (or Golfs depending on year). The Audi A3 also came as a wagon.

    Only thing you really lose is towing capacity for the never or once per decade the average SUV buyer will actually tow anything.

  21. I just got back from New Zealand….Bro, EVERYONE drives a wagon…its insane…I wish I could post the photo when I realised it

  22. The biggest problem for the American market is that a normal family wants the higher up seating of an SUV or crossover because it’s easier to get into and easier to load car seats

  23. They need to bring an A6 and S6 Avant to the US if they want to being the wagon back. The RS6 Avant is amazing but so few people can afford it.

  24. Aussies got on the band wagon with the Sports Wagon too! They came up with a few delic' lined models that would put a scare on the faces of the wife and kids RE: Sandman, HSV Clubsport R8 LSA Wagon, etc…

  25. May not have got the VW Passat R36 in the US but at least they sold the Passat Highline with the 3.6L VR6. I owned one in the US- no r36 sports styling but still had an incredible sounding engine and, with AWD and enough power, it was a seriously good snow car and definitely slots into the sleeper category (276hp, 0-62 in less than 6s)..

  26. donut media does a video on rs6 and credits almost all manufacturers for making performance wagons cool.
    AMG Hammer: Am i a joke to you ???

  27. Not a bad video.
    But you have done a great disservice by not including the E350 wagon, which still has rear facing seats AND could still be had with the AMG63 package. Also, Volvo is still making very attractive and agressive V90. Come on guys.
    Both of these were way better than any domestic wagon options because both the CTS wagon and magnum had very little cargo volume which made it a pointless wagon- that’s why they didn’t work.

  28. An estate = a housing development where all the houses share similar features as they're made by the same company. A COUNCIL estate however is a sketchy hive of scum and villainy (projects basically).

  29. I asked a Bostonian what the california accent was and she said we pronounce our Rs .. so speaking normally ? Im also pretty curious as to what it is about the way we speak that gives it away. Other than saying "like" i don't think that's actually california specific

  30. So a performance wagon episode with no mention of the Mazdaspeed Protege5? Subaru Impreza WRX wagon? AMG wagon?HHR SS? Porsche Panamera (okay that last one was a “shooting brake” which is just European for fast wagon)👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

  31. Station wagons would be cool if they were like a foot taller…. Oh wait, we have that already. And that is why SUVs passed wagons

  32. $112k for a vehicle that will guarantee road rage from not being able to see. Cross overs, SUVs, mini vans all give better visibility and are so much better for the blood pressure when stuck in traffic.

  33. Car enthusiasts annoy me so much they complain about losing manuals and station wagons but they don’t buy them either. This is there last chance to prove station wagons are popular and I’m 100% they won’t buy them

  34. Yup, they "offer" the RS6 in the USA, and when it doesn't sell (due to the price), Audi will say, "See, I told you wagons don't sell in North America." Give us a real A4, S4, A6, or S6 Avant, and it would be a different story. Why can't Audi see that?

  35. Crazy because in japan as well as Europe… wagons never went away! I had a legacy wagon twin turbo when i lived in Japan!… Toyota made wagons for years as well

  36. "I wanna see a 500 horsepower wagon built by ford in the next 5 years" Nolan… buddy, no one bought the twin turbo flex… it was the closest late model ford came to your request.

  37. VW hasn't stop selling a type of wagon. Jetta had one then passat and now golf. They even come with AWD with Turbo and carry a sports wagon title. can they take on a rt charger in a straight line, probably not but they're still fun…

  38. Have you guys seen the buick regal wagon? if only that came with a turbo V6 in addition to the turbo I4 i'd have been happy, its basically a volvo V90 AWD wagon, but $20k less

  39. Fail to mention that large SUVs , as speaking in "gas guzzling engines", do have diesel versions and will soon by GMC and Chevy will have diesel options for Yukon and Suburbans and Tahoes.

    Along with the small block V8 options as in Regular Gas for some efficiency.

    Plus large SUVs been around since the Suburban Caryall from the early 1930s

  40. I love how the generic "minivan" you flashed us with was Bisomoto's 1000 hp Odyssey. J35 ftw, J35 'til I die…

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