Buggy Wheels Converted to Hard Rubber Tires | Engels Coach Shop

Buggy Wheels Converted to Hard Rubber Tires | Engels Coach Shop

Well, it is a very common request that I would convert a buggy wheel that has steel tires to rubber tires. Now if I just took the steel tires off and put new channel and rubber on top of the original wood wheel, that wheel would be about two and a half inches taller in diameter than originally. So it is very common that I will take the old felloes off, cut down the spokes, put new felloes on that are two and a half inches shorter in diameter and then when we put the channel and rubber back on these wheels retain their original diameter. So that’s what we’re gonna do today, I’m gonna put some new felloes on and then reset some channel irons, and put new rubber on these wheels, converting them from steel to rubber tires. The real advantage is when we drive on pavement and gravel roads today just like it was done originally in the 1800s for cobblestone streets. Well, this type of conversion I actually do quite a little bit, because of all the pavement and gravel roads that we ride on today. So, contrary to kind of a popular belief that this is a new fangled tradition, these rubber tires, it actually is over a century old in concept. So, once again, thanks for watching!

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  1. Come on people think! A wagon is a machine and like other machines all the parts work together! Change the size of the wheel and rub plates are to short ,tires hit the frame when making turns, bind on stop blocks, 😳🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😳

  2. Hi, the Second time today:
    Thank you for giving two shows the same day. More of very good information and how the world traveled over a hundred years ago. It still amazes me how the spokes always fit the rim.
    Thank You for sharing

  3. Very enjoyable to watch and I feel like I learn something new every episode. What are the two black tabs for that you added on the inside when bolting down the steel rim?

  4. Funny how our ideas change in life. I well remember when I would come across old square nuts in my old bolt box I would throw them away as being obsolete. Now I regret it and search the internet to buy them to use rebuilding old stuff.

  5. Thanks Dave for showing how you were able to keep the wheels the same height before installing the rubber tires on the wheels. It’s always a great learning experience watching your channel. Thanks for sharing with us.

  6. First of all thank you for the interesting video, and secondly, Could you please answer why the screw nut, once had four ribs and today has six ribs? According to logic, six ribs are more likely to erode ribs than four.

  7. Your work is inspiring and exemplary. I note you don't wear must safety equipment, e.g. hearing protection. Do you think it is good practice to use ppe?

  8. Hi Dave At the risk of duplicating a complement given by others I would like to mention how much I appreciate the care and attention to detail shown when you "time" or clock the retaining nut on the felloes! One question: would a bit of threadlocker on the threads be of any use in case the nuts have a tendency to loosen over time? regards as always vic

  9. Dave is a real master at making his videos without the need for much narration, telling a story without words is a real skill. Watch for the subtle cues such as tuning the wires with a pluck from a fingernail to show they were at the same tension, feeling the braised wires to show they were cool enough to touch and allow the next stage to proceed, and many more. Many other YouTube 'makers' could learn a lot by watching Dave's videos. I can only imagine the time that go into editing these fine documentaries to make them appear seamless…

  10. Please tell us more about that machine you used to tighten up the steel inside the hard rubber tires! Is that something you fabricated? Had fabricated? Ordered from Sears & Roebuck? Very cool!

  11. Question. Why didn't you replace the spokes at the same time. They looked like they were old and due for change considering you changed the fellows. Just wondering.
    Thanks. Never miss a video.

  12. Is that a new dust collector? It looks out of place in your shop. The shop does look pretty clean in this video. Maybe the dust collector has something to do with it. As much work and labor you do for these jobs, I can't help but often wonder how much harder it was back in the days before power drills/saws/planers/routers, electric welders, etc… I suppose it would take three or four men to do back then what you do by yourself. Right?

  13. Even if I watched all your videos, with the rubber tire setup – and I am clear and fully understand the process – I do not stop being mesmerized, each and every time you post this operation. The same state of being, I had it many years ago – back in the 80`, in my first payed job, when I was working on a dredging vessel, of large capacity. In that morning – the whole chain of 56 buckets (each weighing 2 metric tons) , was dropped on the bottom of the bay, at 19 m (60 feet) deep. It was for me …an impossible puzzle to solve, but under my eyes and including my anticipation, that huge pile of cast iron – lying on the bottom of the water – was brought back to the machine – of course: using huge steel ropes, a large floating crane and very powerful winches – with kind of the same process and work system that you apply at work on setup rubber tires
    Thanks for the video!

  14. Well, I've always wondered how those rubber tyres were held on to the rims, now I know!
    From the 5:16 you round over the inside edges of the new fellows, is this primarily an aesthetic thing or does removing the sharp edge of the inside diameter of the fellows make it less likely to crack or break/
    Love the videos and the craftsmanship you display, thank you for taking us along for the ride!
    Cheers from Tokyo!

  15. I had been wondering how they would have welded the C-channel in the olden days, but apparently your video shows they didn't. That they just bolted it into the felloes with that black plate. I assume you put that gap in between the two breaks in the felloes. Then where do you put the start and end of the rubber tyre? Just anywhere or opposite the gap in the steel rim?

  16. It was brilliant to have a second serving of Engels Coach Shop. I am stuffed, well fed and ready for sleep.
    Keep 'er lit Bro!

  17. I just love watching you do these type of conversions to old buggy wheels as you have done a few vlogs on it take care 😀

  18. Just out of curiosity. Do you make the inner circumference of the steel channel a certain amount smaller than the outer circumference of the wood wheel?

  19. That was super cool! Now you need to show us how you replace the tire when it wears out. Did you build the tire machine yourself? It looks kind of shop made. Who would have thunk it? Amazing!

  20. Thank you again for showing us how it was done "back in the day" as well as now a days. Did you re-use the spokes and just shorten them and then tenoned the end or are those all new spokes?

  21. Master Engel – many thanks once again for two excellent and informative videos! This time, I saw something that I'd thought I'd seen a few times before with other videos, but it was welcomed this time as well. I caught sight of you smiling as you worked with the tire mounting machine! It wasn't some goofy grin – just the fleeting knowing smile of a great craftsman going about his tasks. Quite satisfying to see from time to time!

  22. Again, your attention to detail is amazing. Aligning the square nuts, the talcum powder on the rubber joint–Excellent!

  23. Hello, Dave. Fascinating, thanks so much for the instruction. I was actually hoping to find from you another Hebrew lesson this morning, but a lesson on circumcising spokes and adding rubber tread was sufficient.

  24. Hi Dave, thanks for another interesting video, what type of wire is put inside the tyre,? It sounded good stuff when you cut it, just curious! , great craftsmanship as usual, you make it look so easy. Looking forward to the next one, Best wishes to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

  25. Where did the tire wire installing fixture come from? Was it purchased or did you build it? Either way, it is interesting and clever.

  26. What is the thought on how many of those doublers you put on each wheel (I get that each wheel size is different) and why are they actually used if your not going to back up every bolt that you install?

  27. Would some cable pulling lubricant between the rubber and steel before things are tightened help with closing the gap? I really enjoy these videos, great content and production work.

  28. I did not realize that you'd make new feloes to compensate for the extra thickness of the rubber tire and iron channel. I just figured the wheel would just be a little larger. Great video!

  29. Wonder how many buggy wheel recapping shops there are around the world. It is always a joy watching a pro do it right. Thank you very much.

  30. 4:11 is how my day goes. Busy, some hot project in your hands that needs concentration and the blasted phone rings.

  31. Dave, like everyone here I have the greatest respect for you but, please, one professional to another, would you please start using ear defenders when your using power tools or forging metal, even hammering stuff.
    You don't want to get deaf or tinnitus and you absolutely don't want Mrs Dave having to shout at you all the time!

  32. You must have previously measured the width of the outside wheel felloe holes so the interior felloe "tie-irons" plates will accept the bolt heads . . . AND have the practiced eye and hand-skill (that no one recognizes) to drill correctly so it all works . . . Wow!

  33. Sooo? You cut the rubber about six inches too long? And that gets compressed too short and then you have to bounce the wheel, to move the rubber to decompress a bit and to move to fill in the gap? My real question is… Does that initial six inch overlap have to be a very special overage or do you just estimate the overage? ❤🌅🌵

  34. That wire puller is an amazingly clever and specialized machine! And your attention to detail and patience with repetitive tasks is always an inspiration and an example to me (how many hundreds of perfectly rounded over felloe-edges at the spoke ends were there on just that one set of wheels?!) Thanks, as always, for sharing your work with us.

  35. Thank you, Dave, for this second video. This makes the operation of the machine much clearer. I really struggled when I was trying to narrate the video to another resident.

  36. i admire your attention to details, (orientation of fasteners) and everything, you obviously take extreme pride in your work as you should! if i were only young again i would have truly liked to have been taught by you your skills. did you make all the specialty tools and machines, like the rubber tire installer for example?

  37. I'm so glad people like you post this kind of stuff. Now our young ones can see not everything has to be binned after 3 months of use, some stuff is build to last 😉 and can be repaired

    instead of replaced.
    Btw thats some ingenious tool, if only by its simplicity, to tighten and solder thoose wires.

  38. It's good that two videos of this have been shown…
    So you can interpret what's actually going on in the process…🇬🇧🙂

  39. What is the advantage 0f brass over wire to join the rods in the rubber tires? Thank you , love your videos. Bill Janzen

  40. I confess to not understanding why anyone would care that the wheels would be 2 1/2" larger in diameter with the rubber tires on the original fellos.

  41. I noticed that you still have no cat or dog to run the shop. A dog will pull you from your work when you need to be pulled from it. A cat will put itself at a safe distance, and make sure everything is done right.

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