100 Treadwear Tire Shootout & Review – Which is BEST?

100 Treadwear Tire Shootout & Review – Which is BEST?

welcome to our 100 treadwear semi-slick tyres shootout with our trusty old Scion fr-s it’s springtime and that can only mean one thing it’s time to equip your race car your track car with some new tires and we weren’t too sure what we wanted to run this year so we figured why not do a little research plus there’s a couple of texture that we’ve never tried before for starters this is the nan Kang a r1 semi-slick 100 tread wear as are the other two it’s a relatively new tire it’s one that we haven’t seen used in North America before so we’re really curious to see how this works these are all two 65/35 r18s by the way we’ve also got the Matz’s RC one here the tire we haven’t tried before but it’s been on the market for a few years now we’re just curious to try it ourselves and see how it stacks up against the our triple a tire which is the tire we do have a lot of experience on so we have a pretty good idea where to set that set that tire up we’re gonna set these up based on what the Internet has told us to set them up at but we’re going to use science via a tire pyrometer and a tire pressure gauge to really get all three tires dialed in and working in their optimum temperature range I think that’s all we really need to tell you guys you guys can jump on the internet look up all the other specs 100 tread wear semi slicks let’s go rip and see which one’s fastest first test session of the day should mention it’s a nice spring day here it’s about 14 degrees Celsius right now it’s gonna go up to about 17 for a high how to put the windows up I can there we go so we’re just going to do these as Time Attack sessions and then three hot laps and we’ll bring it in [Music] tire temperature data good pressure data make sure we’re getting this fully up to temperature start scrubbing these bad boys in here whole bunch understeer there these hard triple-a tires really seem to pick up understeer in the heat first of all let me say Peter this car is a lot of fun of course it is I’ve missed it it’s great to have it for tests like this because it’s were so familiar with it we’ve done a million laps in this car at this track so it’s kind of the perfect test vehicle for testing tires the art triple-eight ours were interesting I did a I don’t know what my lap times are we’ll see those for the end but I should say that the archer plates were really good on the first lap they seemed to come up to temperature quickly and the car was really nice and neutral and then as I pushed harder and the temperatures rise in the tire I was picking up some front end push so it’ll be interesting to see if the other tires do that as well or if that’s a characteristic that’s unique to the our Triple Eight ours anyway the car was a good fun good grip kind of what we expect from an our trip later we’re so familiar with the compound there were no surprises so let’s move on to the next set of tires and see what we get by comparison the max is our c1 and I have no idea how these tires behave except I did find a huge threat on them on a forum from an FRS guy who races on them in the in Australia of all places so set the pressures to 27 cold based on his information and see how that works you should also mention that popped up the gas so that it’s at the same level on all the tires rotation there man was trying to slow it a little here to avoid the but if you slow down amazing so interesting it’s not like a bonzai entry tire but if you’re clean little happier I’ll be that I can monks that’s the happier restraint on coming a little hotter what an interesting tire the Maxis rc1 is I’ve had no prior experience on them so I really didn’t know what to expect and at first the car was really loose there was no heat in the rear tires and it was a little sketchy but once the rear tires came up the car started to feel quite stable still very easy to rotate on throttle the most interesting part though was the way it behaves on turnin if you carry too much speed in and you get really aggressive with like your steering and just try to just carry a ton of speed to the apex they wash out they understeer they’re not very happy but if you dial it back a bit kind of go with more of that slow and fast out approach the tire is much happier so I was a little too aggressive on my first couple of hot laps I started the clue in I dialed it back just a bit on my third lap and it was much better almost a half second quicker so it seems like that’s a slow in fast Oh tire that needs a bit more restraint so my suit Petey’s driving style better than mine anyway let’s move on to the next one okay time for our last set here the nan Kang AR ones a tire I know even less about than any of the others seems to be a very popular tire in Europe there’s a number of race series there that run it and based on the information I could glean from those series these like fairly low pressures we’re starting at 25 cold we’ll see how those work very curious to see how this tyre works there was a uk-based car magazine that bested them against the arch replayed ours and Avon tires to be the fastest of the bunch so very neutral very neutral like really so predictable a breakaway very impressive confidence-inspiring tire [Music] too much confidence there the Nanking ar1 is a very interesting tire best of the group as far as cold behavior so when they were cold the grip level was predictable the breakaways predictable and they had more grip when cold than the other tires did so I think he could actually use those as I can autocross tire certainly a suitable time for Time Attack because they inspire confidence right off the bat I think I also had some learning to do because my first couple of laps I was just over driving them and I was picking up some front-end push because I was just attacking the corners too hard and once I dialed that back a bit the front end started to be much happier and my lap times dropped as a result so I think they require a bit of a cleaner driving style that maybe I was giving them but I’m very impressed by the potential this Tire has and it was definitely getting getting better every lap our temperatures are still a little bit low so I feel like there’s more potential in this tire once we get the temperatures up into the sweet spot so well at all very interesting tests interesting results let’s go and download some data on the laptop come back and give you guys a quick wrap-up of where we’re at well we decided to come back to our shop and go through all the data so that we had enough time to really properly sort through it and give you guys the most detailed summary of the results as we could here in the video but for more details go to Speed Academy that’s our website no calm on the end just speed Academy and I will post a much more detailed story with data overlays so you can really see you can kind of zoom in and see some fine details if that’s what you’re looking for but for now we’re going to kind of give you a global overview of our results but it’s important to note that our results with this car at that track under the weather conditions that we had which were pretty cool it was like 14 Celsius and very windy which was keeping the tires quite cool on the track quite cool our results may not be the same as the results you would get if you did this test on your car at your track so just treat this as a single test a single data point for you to consider when you go tire shopping it’s not the end all and be all of tire tests ok let’s move on to lap times that’s obviously what you guys are most interested in and our quickest tire was the nan Kang a r1 it did a 119 point one two three and just behind it was the matches are c1 which on 119 point two seven three I believe it is and finally we had the toil our triple 8 which did a 120 point zero nine three so there was less than a one-second spread between the three tires so pretty close competition on a track that’s a minute and 20 seconds long ish one second is not insignificant especially if you’re in a Time Attack format where every tenth counts but still pretty tight competition especially between the AR 1 and the maxes that was just over a tenth of a second difference so very close besides the lap times let’s do a quick summary of cornering speeds corner and g-forces and kind of explain to you guys where we think the performance difference really came from and I’m looking through the data it was interesting to see that because I was having to use sort of a slow and fast out method with the RC ones because they were just under steering a lot if I was attacking the corners to her that was actually translating into faster top-end speeds down the straightaways so the maxis was actually reaching slightly higher top speeds than the other two tires because of that change in driving style but because the nan Kang’s were really allowing me to attack corner entry I was carrying more speed in so I was able to brake later and carry more speed to the apex on the neck hangs the turns were kind of in between if I over drove them they would understeer but they did give me more options in terms of how I could attack the corner the Maxis were really good under power by the way so coming out of the corner exit they were putting the power down really well which was helping with that top speed down straightaways anyway having poured through the data there was very small differences in cornering grip the neck hangs did have a slightly higher peak g-force in the corners I think it peaked at around 1.3 7 the Maxis were peaking around 1.3 4 and the toys were peaking at around 1.3 so we did seem to see some small differences in peak g-forces in the corners but to me the most interesting part then I didn’t expect this was how big the difference was in the braking zones when I look at this graph here which shows where the toils and the maxes were losing time to the 9 Kang’s it was almost always in the braking zones that they were losing which tells me that the Nang Kang’s were just providing more grip in the braking zones and I think because they were also inspiring more confidence for me in corner entry I was I was carrying more speed into the braking zones I was braking later and harder and I could see that from the steepness of the speed decline that I’m braking harder on the nine Kings and I’m I’m creating more longitudinal g-force so I think the the big performance advantage for the Nang Kings was actually in the braking zones and then in the turn in response and turning grip that’s really where they won the war in this particular test so that’s our quick data summary like I said go to speed Academy for more details on all this stuff thanks for watching we hope you find this helpful when you go tire shopping and you want to support us go buy some swag while you’re over at the speed Academy dot shop and we might even be able to sell you some tires so give us a shout won’t try to help you go fast

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  1. Since the Nankangs are on all 4 corners of The Z4Minator my laps @ The Ring are just a blast! For me it's the holy grail of track tires … (and I've run a bunch) Cheers

  2. Thanks for that great review. Looking forward to the 200 Treadwear one as well.

    Quick question regarding Nankang in the States. Was able to score a set of 265/35-18s NS-2Rs on Amazon last year. Now they're no longer available… AR-1s are not available at all, sadly, but i would like to try them next. You guys have a source for these?
    For 110 bucks a tire, the NS-2Rs are really damn good value for money as a beginner like myself.

    Keep it up!

  3. Is it me or does the Nankang look noticeably wider than the other 2? A tape measurer on all 3 mounted on rim would be informative.

  4. That Nakang tire looks so much wider vs the other 2 brands in a 265, did you guys measure the actual contact patch widths of each manufacture?

  5. Really wish you guys threw a set or RE71r's. Ive been told those are light years better than the 888r's. Would really like to see how they hold against this group.

    They're so quick my local challenge series bans them by name in the points placement because they out perform everything else on track.

  6. Far to aggressive and the car was all over the place. Better test would have been with someone much smoother

  7. What so u guys do or have for oil starvation on this car? Or is this something u dont really have to worry for some reason on this car?!

  8. Did you guys swap back to the Toyo and Maxis for another few laps or what we saw was what you guys ran?

    Seems like you got faster as you have done more laps and the Nankang was the last to be run in the video. Perhaps going back to the Toyo and Maxis may turn different lap times. 👍

  9. Are you able to measure the exact width of each tyre? And the temperatures you recorded with the probe? Would be much appreciated!

  10. Great test, I’ve also done a test with the AR1’s and found them the best, I now use these on a few cars and one two championships on them too ❤️👌😎👍 great vid lads!

  11. great job! i'm another one who has run Nitto NT-01s for the last decade. it's good to see some new names in the game.

  12. Good test. Thank you.
    Something to consider…
    The tire may not have been the only thing contributing to faster laps. If you did progress through the tires in that order (Toyo first, Nankang last), you may have been benefiting from the previous laps of practice. The Toyo may have had better relative performance, had it been tested last.
    Doing science!

  13. It'd be too cool if a normal person could pick 3 tires of their choice to give real test drives on their own car before spending the cash. I'd spend a couple hundred dollars extra for the experience. Great video. I'd be interested in a street tire comparison in the same format. Well done.

  14. Since last year i kept hearing AR-1s, even some track car rentals at the Ring in Germany are switching to them. They all reported nothing but good reviews in dry and wet, they are going on my E30 soon.

  15. I agree with this review. I´ve run R888 for a few years and they always overheat and understeer quite fast. The AR-1 is better in my experience.

  16. Beautiful episode guys. Love seeing you on track, and with good information along the way!
    Stupid question: why haven't you replaced the steering wheel with a more racey one, given this is a full on racecar?

  17. when people shit on nankangs i laugh. maybe 10 years ago this was acceptable.. but not anymore. Nankang is no joke.

  18. Mhmm when the 200 tw happens i'd like to see how my Kumho V720s stackup against the others. I've found them quite good and crazy good in the wet. Which i though was weird for a semi slick

  19. Did the track temp rise as they day went on? Could have skewed results by a couple of tenths easily (warmer track usually faster unless tires overheat)

  20. Where all the tires run at the same pressures or just recommended pressures and where they all the same size tire?

  21. The nankang is definetely running wider than the other tires. However tire size options are limited… if I wanted something for my corvette it's limited… 275/35/18 and 285/35/19 is what I run and I can't get that for this tire… and if I go wider in the rear… nothing in 3xx

  22. How can you run a test like this with different wheels? Are all 3 weighted and balanced exactly the same? I doubt it but who knows.

  23. U need a other cars , my first cars was a firebird 1987 and was faster then this pile of junk .
    Good frame but the fucking engine bay is to close to fit a LS so its a fail .

  24. I wish they made the AR-1 in some larger section width sizes (i.e, 305, 315, 325) for a 19 in. Rim. I was excited to try them until I saw the lack of size choices.

  25. I can't speak for the other 2 tires but another big advantage for the Maxxis RC-1 is tire life and heat tolerance. I have not found a better track day tire for the Texas heat.

  26. Very interesting. I'd love to see comparison to the tires are used the most in the heavy car world (i. E. Mustang)
    Nitto NT01. GY F1 3R. SPORT CUP2. YOKO A052.

  27. Would like to see the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 compared to similar tires. I just bought the Firestone's to mount on my new Rota slips for my SRT4 track car. I'm still building the car so haven't had the opportunity to see how they perform.

  28. So many of you are commenting on the different widths of tires. Please READ our story on the site to see the actual widths: http://speed.academy/100-tread-wear-track-tire-review-nankang-ar1-maxxis-rc1-toyo-r888r/ Trying to say one tire is wider than another without actually seeing them is what we like to call keyboard racing and no one like a keyboard racer!

  29. Enjoyed watching the in car drive more than learning about the tires. Some impressive control you put down!

  30. Really good data, thank you.
    Would have been good to see the Federal RSRR and Yokohama A050 in there to compare them to a really cheap and really expensive semi.
    I run the AR1 and I drive like DP and throw the car in hard. They are quite popular in Australia.
    Good news is they get better when they are half shagged and last forever.
    I'm 50 laps in on mine and they are half tread. That's on a 180hp FWD

  31. How is the AR1 compare to A052? Which one is better? I know it is difference treadwear rating tires.

  32. That FR-S sounds like the first 240sx you get in NFS Pro Street lmao, great review but the car sounds horrible

  33. Great review, I know I really appreciate videos like this. It would be awesome if you did more reviews like this at different tire threads.

  34. Treadwear is nothing, 888r is a very slow tire and nankang ar1 compound is very hard, it's OK because the manufacturers make this tyres for enthusiasts and amateurs, they can't make a soft tire, a real soft tires in a front wheel drive car with a wrong driver that only goes for understeer, probably the front tires can take only 5 laps, … You should try re71r tw200 and Zestino Gredge 07rs tw140, you will have a big surprise! If you want laptimes these are the tires! Much softer compounds and so much more more grip 😊

  35. Really like to know the camber and toe settings you have setup. Seems like front end push on all three tires so wondering if you're -3 or higher up front?  Personal preference for me is -3.5 F -2.25 R and rear toe at 0 running R7's

  36. Interesting video..between there's a new champ out there..the ADVAN A052..the best semi slick which overall better than the P Zero Trofeo R itself!

  37. This is a great data point and thank you for bringing this comparison to light. Your hand work did a lot of talking as well.

    My only questions is in your experience, how do you think this data will differ in a heavier car? TIA

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